Legislature(2003 - 2004)

04/26/2004 09:01 AM Senate FIN

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     CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 278(L&C)                                                                                            
     "An  Act relating to  fees for the  inspection of recreational                                                             
     devices,  including instructional devices, for  certificates of                                                            
     fitness   for  electrical  wiring  and  plumbing,   for  filing                                                            
     voluntary flexible  work hour plan agreements, and for licenses                                                            
     for boiler operators;  relating to the building safety account;                                                            
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This  was the first  hearing  for this  bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken stated  this bill,  sponsored by  the Senate  Rules                                                            
Committee at the request  of the Governor, "creates two new fees and                                                            
increases  existing  fees charged  by the  Department  of Labor  and                                                            
Workforce Development."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
GREG  O'CLARY,  Commissioner,  Department  of  Labor  and  Workforce                                                            
Development, testified  this legislation relates to user fees, which                                                            
have not been increased for ten years.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
GREY MITCHELL,  Director,  Division of Labor  Standards and  Safety,                                                            
Department  of Labor and Workforce  Development, outlined  the bill.                                                            
Section  1,  he stated  would  establish  a fee  for  amusement  and                                                            
recreational devices  for each inspection performed.  These fees, he                                                            
informed, would  pay the cost of inspector travel  and certification                                                            
for testing  that must  occur outside Alaska,  and subsequently  pay                                                            
the cost to maintain the inspection services.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell  detailed that  Section 2 would  impose a $200  fee for                                                            
boiler operator  licenses, pointing  out that no fees currently  are                                                            
imposed for this license  and the fee would support the program that                                                            
administers testing and issues the licenses.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Mitchell  next  informed  that Section  3  would  increase  the                                                            
existing license fee by  $20 for electricians and plumbers from $160                                                            
to $200 for a  two-year. He reported this fee was  last increased in                                                            
the year 1993  and the increased revenues  would pay the  cost of an                                                            
additional  electrical  inspector  position,  which along  with  the                                                            
current two positions,  would provide "a good coverage area" for the                                                            
State  with  one inspector   located in  Southeast  Alaska,  one  in                                                            
Southcentral and  the third located in the Northern  areas. He noted                                                            
the number of plumbing inspectors would not change.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell then  explained that Section 4 relates  to a filing fee                                                            
and qualified that the  revenues from this fee would not be utilized                                                            
to support  inspection services,  but would  rather be deposited  to                                                            
the State general fund.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  O'Clary interjected  that Co-Chair Green has  proposed                                                            
an amendment to Section 4.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell  continued that Sections  5 and 6 would establish  that                                                            
the fees  charged in Sections  1 through 3  would be deposited  into                                                            
the Building  Safety  Account, a  sub-account of  the State  general                                                            
fund utilized  for the mechanical  inspection sections programs.  He                                                            
remarked  this  office  operates   "as  close  as  you  can  get  in                                                            
government, like  a business", explaining that the  fees charged are                                                            
directly used to fund the services provided.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Mitchell  concluded   with  Section  7  that  establishes   the                                                            
effective date.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked the number of  people who would be affected  by                                                            
the fees  imposed in Section  1 for inspection  of recreational  and                                                            
amusement vehicles.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell replied  that approximately 50 businesses  in the State                                                            
operate  recreational  devises. He  noted this  includes  businesses                                                            
that operate go-carts,  ski lifts and bumper cars. He stated that an                                                            
amendment  to the  companion  legislation  adopted by  the House  of                                                            
Representatives  would exempt from the fee a company  such as Golden                                                            
Wheels,  the largest  operator, to  employ inspectors  from  out-of-                                                            
state. He relayed the Department  would support such an amendment to                                                            
the Senate bill as well.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  referenced the $100  filing fee for applications  for                                                            
flexible work  schedules proposed  in Section 4. He asked  if public                                                            
employers  would  be subject  to this  fee as  well  as the  private                                                            
sector. He exampled prison guards working 12-hour shifts.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell responded  this legislation would only apply to private                                                            
businesses,  noting the current exemption  in the statute  requiring                                                            
overtime  pay for flexible  work hour  plans. He  used workweeks  of                                                            
four 10-hour  days as an example.  He stated this legislation  would                                                            
impose a  fee for applications  for the exemption.  He reported  the                                                            
Department   received  approximately   200  such  applications   the                                                            
previous year.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde clarified  the provisions of Section 4 would not apply                                                            
to State  negotiated  union contracts  that allow  State workers  to                                                            
work less than 40 hours per week.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell affirmed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #1:  The amendment deletes "for filing voluntary  flexible                                                            
work hour plan  agreements," from  the title of the bill  on page 1,                                                            
lines 2 and 3. The amended language reads as follows.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act relating to  fees for the  inspection of recreational                                                             
     devices,  including instructional devices, for  certificates of                                                            
     fitness  for electrical wiring  and plumbing, and for  licenses                                                            
     for boiler operators;  relating to the building safety account;                                                            
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
This  amendment also  deletes Section  4 from  the bill  on page  2,                                                            
lines 7 - 10, which read as follows.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 4. AS  23.10.060 is amended by adding a  new subsection to                                                            
     read:                                                                                                                      
          (f) An employer shall pay a nonrefundable fee of $100 for                                                             
     each  voluntary  flexible  work hour  plan agreement  that  the                                                            
     employer  files  with  the department  under  (d)(14)  of  this                                                            
     section.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green moved for adoption.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  explained that current statute require  employers to                                                            
pay employees  overtime pay for work  performed beyond 40  hours per                                                            
week or eight  hours per day. She noted this statute  also allows an                                                            
employer  and  an  employee  to mutually  agree  to  an alternative                                                             
arrangement, such  as four ten-hour workdays within  a week, without                                                            
overtime  compensation, provided  that the  employer submits  to the                                                            
Department of Labor and  Workforce Development a "voluntary flexible                                                            
work  plan". She  opposed  the provision  in this  legislation  that                                                            
would impose  a $100 filing  fee to the employer,  as it involves  a                                                            
voluntary agreement between the employer and employee.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken calculated  the fiscal  note  for this legislation                                                             
would become zero if this amendment were adopted.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  O'Clary  informed that  a zero  fiscal  note would  be                                                            
acceptable to the Department.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  removed  his  objection  to the  adoption  of  the                                                            
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  understood that fees  are intended to equal  the cost                                                            
of processing licenses,  permits, etc. He surmised therefore that if                                                            
this  amendment  passes, flexible  work  plans  would  no longer  be                                                            
required or filed  with the Department to negate any  expense to the                                                            
Department.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  O'Clary replied that  the notification would  continue                                                            
to  be required  but  that  no  fees  would be  collected  for  this                                                            
service.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde asked what  the Department does with the flexible work                                                            
plan notifications.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell reaffirmed  that the flexible work plans would still be                                                            
required through  regulation. He stated that the Department  reviews                                                            
these  plans  to  ensure  they  meet  the  intent  of  the  overtime                                                            
exemption provisions.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  remarked that administering  this program  must incur                                                            
an expense to the Department.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Mitchell  affirmed  that  staff time  is  spent  reviewing  and                                                            
approving the flexible work plans.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde asked the cost.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell did not know the exact amount.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  opined  that  the  cost  should  be  determined  and                                                            
reflected in the fiscal note.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green pointed  out this amendment would maintain the status                                                            
quo of the program, as no fees are currently collected.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  removed  his  objection  to the  adoption  of  the                                                            
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde objected.  He asserted that the fiscal note should not                                                            
be zero,  but rather should  reflect the  cost of administering  the                                                            
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked the approximate range of the cost.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   O'Clary  qualified   that  any   estimate  would   be                                                            
speculation and very approximate.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell calculated  that approximately 200 to 250 flexible work                                                            
plans are filed  each year and that  depending upon the complexity,                                                             
each plan  could require  up to  one-half hour  to review. He  noted                                                            
that simpler plans could  be reviewed in ten minutes. He pointed out                                                            
however,  that  staff  time  is only  a  portion  of  the  program's                                                            
expenses and that  office space and other expenses  are incurred. He                                                            
estimated the program would cost approximately $2500 per year.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked if  the margin of error would be approximately                                                            
$1000.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell agreed this was a fair assessment.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  calculated  the cost per filing  to be approximately                                                             
$10.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell agreed this is an approximate amount.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde requested an updated fiscal note.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken suggested  the Committee  adopt  the amendment  and                                                            
hold the bill to await an updated fiscal note.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Without objection the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken ordered the bill HELD in Committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                

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